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Ken Fallon says: You're right

RE: hpr4566::2026-02-02 HPR Community News for January 2026 by HPR Volunteersfrom the series HPR Community News.
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I've always considered them to be in order as in if not rule 1, then if not rule 2, etc.
Perhaps that's why people have struggled with them for so long.

I'm genuinely open to suggestions to improve it, but would appreciate moving the conversation to the gittea ticket

https://repo.anhonesthost.net/HPR/hpr_documentation/issues/17

Ken Fallon says: re "reschedule shows which don't need to be on a specific date forwards or backwards"

RE: hpr4566::2026-02-02 HPR Community News for January 2026 by HPR Volunteersfrom the series HPR Community News.
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Before a show is posted, it's ID is more or less the key you get when you upload, once it's posted the unique id is the hpr episode number.

Moving the primary key leads to a mess with the synchronization of files between the HPR site, the Internet Archive, and the HPR CCDN.

We've had to do it in the past, so I'm again speaking from experience. We moved a show from a host which happened to be part 2 and it would have gotten aired before the part 1. This meant we had 4 shows to move. So we will never move a show without getting permission from the Host, and if they do not get back to us, or we feel that it's important enough, the mail list.

Moving shows breaks some RSS readers that *only* look at the enclosure/@url element. If that remains the same, then they have no reason to download it again. So anyone who has already downloaded *any* of the moved shows will not download them again. Which basically breaks the future feed entirely.

Moving a show can easily spiral into a lot of work. We will and have done it on occasion, but if it's urgent enough, you should reserve a slot.

The janitors really - and I mean really - do not like to move shows around once they are posted.

Ken Fallon says: response to Whiskeyjack

RE: hpr4566::2026-02-02 HPR Community News for January 2026 by HPR Volunteersfrom the series HPR Community News.
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re 1) I think the guide lines are clear on the point, but if you can suggest an improvement then please do so.

3. Always try and fill any free slots that are available in the upcoming two weeks.
4. When the queue is filling up then leave some slots free for new contributors.

re 2) Yip we'll tone it down depending on how urgent it is.

re 3) The limit is removed but we need to redo the how to page

Whiskeyjack says: Response to candycanearter07 on episode scheduling

RE: hpr4566::2026-02-02 HPR Community News for January 2026 by HPR Volunteersfrom the series HPR Community News.
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I think the existing episode scheduling system is really good. It could possibly be improved with a few minor tweaks, but I think the existing system is the product of long experience and shouldn't be overthrown without good reason.

Once such tweak may be to let the maintainers reschedule shows which don't need to be on a specific date forwards or backwards to some degree to open up slots for newcomers or to fill empty slots. They may do this already for all I know. This perhaps could be automated with a script.

The root of the problem is not enough *new* contributors. It would only take a handful of new regular contributors to keep HPR going with plenty of new episodes.

Whiskeyjack says: response to Ken Fallon - Episode Scheduling Guidelines

RE: hpr4566::2026-02-02 HPR Community News for January 2026 by HPR Volunteersfrom the series HPR Community News.
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Rule 3 says to always try to fill slots in the upcoming 2 weeks.
Rule 4 says when the "queue is filling up" to leave slots free for new contributors.
Rule 5 says to post non-urgent shows into the first empty week.

3 and 5 seem to contradict one another, as most shows will be non-urgent. 4 is unclear as to what "filling up" means in practical terms.

Long time contributors will have a good feel for what they should be doing and first time contributors should use the first free slot, but someone on his second or third episode can find navigating the rules a bit confusing.

Things like this should always be looked at from the perspective of someone who is relatively new to contributing podcasts when judging how clear the guidelines are.

candycanearter07 says: my two cents

RE: hpr4566::2026-02-02 HPR Community News for January 2026 by HPR Volunteersfrom the series HPR Community News.
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I think a good middle ground could be to have a "short term queue" that a show could go into if the creator doesn't care when exactly it appears? That way the explicit date reservations can have more priority.

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